tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post729383515070403406..comments2023-09-20T07:28:27.572-05:00Comments on Linux in Exile: About opennessJim Hallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11598443864678006773noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post-23398250578617914082010-05-17T06:47:15.214-05:002010-05-17T06:47:15.214-05:00Will Apple launch a "heart you too, Adobe!&qu...Will Apple launch a "heart you too, Adobe!" ad?<br /><br />I hope HTML5 includes some license-free royalty-free video codecs (and that people develop for them).MadScientistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post-82794296408168383162010-05-16T10:49:09.762-05:002010-05-16T10:49:09.762-05:00As an Apple user, I also hope that Apple doesn'...As an Apple user, I also hope that Apple doesn't change their minds. In fact, I'm getting rid of Flash right now!<br /><br />This will be much more efficient. I used to enjoy playing Flash games, but no more! Those <a href="http://www.popcap.com/" rel="nofollow">PopCap</a> games require Flash. And J-D says Apple wants me to be Flash-free.<br /><br />My friends can suck it, because I won't be playing WordScraper with them anymore, either. That's a Flash game, too.<br /><br />I guess I'll stop playing Farmville too, since that requires Flash.<br /><br />But that's ok, right?<br /><br />And I no longer will be distracted with free television - because <a href="http://blog.hulu.com/2010/05/13/pardon-our-dust/" rel="nofollow">Hulu doesn't support HMTL5 video.</a> I used to use Hulu a <em>lot</em> because I travel so much, and I can catch up on shows wherever I am. But now I'll just buy episodes of my favorite shows for $1.99 each from iTunes, and download it to my computer before watching it. Rather than watch them immediately, for free, on Hulu.<br /><br />And I'm sure paying $1.99 per episode will really get me motivated to watch new shows. There's nothing I find more exciting than dumping $2 down the drain just to learn if that new sitcom sucks total ass.<br /><br />But at least watching videos from YouTube will be a snap, because <a href="http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/01/youtubes-html5-player.html" rel="nofollow">YouTube already supports HTML5.</a> If I'm running Safari, that is. And all Mac users only run Safari, <em>right</em>, never Firefox? At least, only <em>true Mac users</em> do. So at least I still get to watch those kitten videos. Lucky me.<br /><br />Oh, but wait. I just remembered I'm not a Mac user- I'm a Linux user. I actually value Openness, but at a balance with things like Flash. That's why there are projects like <a href="http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/" rel="nofollow">Gnash</a> to provide a free Flash alternative.<br /><br />But hey, to each his own.mynameisorangenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post-91129536100316739912010-05-16T09:42:21.631-05:002010-05-16T09:42:21.631-05:00@Jean-Denis: If Apple wants to rid the Web of &quo...@Jean-Denis: If Apple wants to rid the Web of "that devilish Flash nightmare", as you put it, that's fine. I'm no fan of closed systems. But doing it by saying "Kill off this closed standard and let us replace it with another closed one" - while hiding behind the banner of "Openness" - isn't the right way.JHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05264061238864151815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post-49588155734945109842010-05-15T23:53:56.162-05:002010-05-15T23:53:56.162-05:00Personally, I can't believe Jobs has the audac...Personally, I can't believe Jobs has the audacity to say "we strongly believe that all standards pertaining to the web should be open" when Apple turns around and not only strongly pushes H.264 for the video tag, but refuses to even support Theora within Safari.<br /><br />Apparently to Jobs, "we strongly believe that all standards pertaining to the web should be open" only applies when Apple isn't in the patent pool.<br /><br />(There are other problems with Jobs' comments. For example: "We also know first hand that Flash is the number one reason Macs crash." No. If Flash crashes Safari, that can be considered Flash's fault. But if Flash crashes the system, which it sounds like he's saying, it's the OS's fault; not Flash's.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post-80131326290397080902010-05-15T22:36:58.817-05:002010-05-15T22:36:58.817-05:00As an Apple user, I really hope Apple doesn't ...As an Apple user, I really hope Apple doesn't change their mind ever. Apple is the only company that can really rid us off that devilish Flash nightmare.<br /><br />And let me point out that Adobe claims (wrongly) to be open, Apple doesn't claim to be open. At least Apple is honest there.<br /><br />Also, Apple contributes quite a bit to really open software, if only through Webkit (and a few other less important projects).Jean-Denisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post-54689536971357793082010-05-15T20:18:11.424-05:002010-05-15T20:18:11.424-05:00@ PV: I think a degree of Linux evangelism is warr...@ PV: I think a degree of Linux evangelism is warranted here, especially in response to apple's talk of openness. they are talking about being open when they are in fact running one of the most closed consumer systems. This should be contrasted with Linux and FOSS in general, but you can't really do that without pointing out why FOSS/Linux is better.<br /><br />I think JH's summary of the issue is right.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08345844882894801472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5650649138973583402.post-16249846388318670532010-05-15T18:34:05.900-05:002010-05-15T18:34:05.900-05:00I posted (http://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/...I posted (http://dasublogbyprashanth.blogspot.com/2010/05/adobe-vs-apple-in-fight-for-flash.html) my take on this as well: it follows essentially the same line of thought, but I also say that while each company is obviously trying to take a moral high ground, both companies fail at doing so. Also, I think it's important (as we are after all taking about the openness of the _web_) to focus more on alternatives to Flash like Ogg and H.264 rather than try to bring (too much) Linux evangelism into this.<br /><br />--<br />a Linux Mint user since 2009 May 1PVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03204919785416600206noreply@blogger.com